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Robert Manz's avatar

Nice discussion. The only thing I know about that creates a thing you could call time is the second law of thermonymics. This gives a direction to change and creates a past present and future. Whether the law holds I do not know but if it does, a frame of reference for time is established. Needless to say both our heads and what we experience with them are subject to the law, if it is valid.

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What is an illusion but "a projection of the mind," anyway?

https://www.azquotes.com/author/14703-Eckhart_Tolle/tag/time#google_vignette

All the science and philosophy in the world may fail to help us deliver ourselves up to the Now, to realizing our immortality.

But many movies may help show how, as in "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge," about 1890, around the time of the birthing of modern quantum physics (but some two millennia after a Nazarean is said to have suggested that "In my Father's House are many mansions..."), Ambrose Bierce offered a view of how our immortality may operate in parallel universes - before himself disappearing and/or maybe be executed by another military(!).

In which of his Westerns does Clint Eastwood not function as an embodied ghost, having died early in that same movie or, as in "Pale Rider," before it - even if not one of those deaths is made any more obvious to the viewed than it may have been to writer, director, actor or (fictional) protagonist - any more than that death of, say, Chief Joseph's in "Little Big Man," or of Tom Selleck's/Quigley's and Laura San Giacomo's/Crazy Cora's in "Quigley Down Under," or of Vigo's and Hidalgo's in "Hidalgo," or of Al Pacino's/Frank Serpico's in "Serpico," based, as it was, on yet another true story?

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpico#Plot : "NYPD Detective Frank Serpico is rushed to the hospital, having been shot in the face.")?

Did Malala Yousafzai, too, not die with unsurpassed courage....before resuming her life's work?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai

Did not that Nazarean, also? That “YOU are the Light of the world” guy?

And did not Dr Jill Bolte Taylor - even if she does not believe this, even if Jill did and does not see it this way?

https://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_my_stroke_of_insight

https://shrinkrapradio.com/147-nirvana-and-the-brain/

And perhaps Eckhart Tolle in that experience he describes in his introduction to “The Power of Now,” whether or not he sees it that way?

https://www.azquotes.com/author/14703-Eckhart_Tolle/tag/time

And everyone among us who has had a “near-death” experience?

And, and, and all of us:

“‘With regard to their actual course of studies, the main object of all education is, in their opinion, to imbue their scholars with a firm belief in the indestructibility of the human soul…”

— Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, VI, 14.’

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid

It may not be three weeks later - in movie time - following his prophecy that Russell Crowe/Maximus is harvesting his crops, but, come movie's end, that harvest may be just three weeks away. And what is a few weeks more in eternity?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDpTc32sV1Y

In "Contact," based on the book by Carl Sagan, much as in "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge," the heroine appears to function in at least two parallel universes simultaneously - as may have done John Forbes Nash Jnr. or Russell Crowe (once again!) of "A Beautiful Mind,” even if Director Ron Howard did not see it that way?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film)

And then there was the (real-life, Quigley-Down-Under-death-in-the-desert-saved-by-nomads) story of author of the biggest selling book in the French language, "Le Petit Prince," of course, Antoine Marie Jean-Baptiste Roger, vicomte de Saint-Exupéry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_de_Saint-Exup%C3%A9ry

The odds that any of us is a mere mortal living 121 or fewer years in all timeless eternity are as close to nihil as it gets.

The odds that any of us alive right now would be alive right now if s/he is an immortal are 100%.

We have plenty of time to go on trying to figure out time, I am guessing.

Comfort and joy and mirth and love and light and laughter, and THANK you!

Tom.

"Eternity is an awful long time, especially towards the end." - Woody Allen, reportedly.

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